Video Transcript: The Command to Make Disciples

Francis - So as you're getting into the Word of God, with your disciple, it's so  important now that you understand from the beginning and teach them from the  start, look, what is the word of God, like when God gives us command, let's not  make it obscure, you know, it's good to memorize. But it's not just to memorize.  When someone gives you a command, you do it, especially when it comes from  God. And so here with this command of Jesus rising from the dead, go and  make disciples, it may feel awkward, because I know, I know, usually in our you  know, way of doing things, the American Christian way is, you know, just feed  them, feed them, feed them, and don't expect a whole lot. But Jesus didn't start  that way. He said follow me, I'll make you fishers of men. So while it may feel  awkward to tell this, you know, follower of yours, disciple of yours, that it's time  for you to pass this on. I think we have to start with that.  

David - Absolutely. And that is key from the very beginning of this picture to look  at. There's a big difference between knowledge based discipleship and  obedience based discipleship. So this is not just passing on information, it's  these 24 weeks or even if you'd take longer, just involve passing on information,  then receive somebody else or a small group of guys receiving this, then that  misses the whole point. We're teaching people to obey everything Christ has  commanded us, like I remember spending time teaching disciple making with a  small group of believers in Sudan. So sitting in a mud hut, teaching the word  talking about making disciples, and the whole time I'm talking, they hardly ever  even looked at me. It's because they were writing down like everything I was  saying, and they were thinking through, they would tell it to me afterwards, say,  David, we know we have a responsibility to take everything you've taught us  translate it into our tribes languages and teach it in our tribes. And that just  changed the whole dynamic of what was happening in that small group. They  were not just listening to receive, they were listening to reproduce. And so to  really think help those you're walking through this with to think through, okay,  how can we make sure that we're putting these things into practice in our lives?  And then how can we make sure that we're learning how to pass this on to  others? Because if it's stopping with us, we're missing the whole point. This  word is intended to spread through us not not stop with us.  

Francis - Yeah. And they're gonna feel a little bit intimidated thinking iI'm  supposed to teach someone else. And to let them know that we that you're  scared, I'm not doing this perfectly. I don't know how to do this. I have to pray  and ask God. See, a lot of times what we do is, when someone gets scared of  something, we make it easier for them, or we can wait well don't pass it on yet  that instead of what I see in Scripture, where the believers would pray over each other and go, Man, I know you're scared. But this is what the Holy Spirit has  given us for it given to us for let's let's pray for you. I just want to pray over you. 

You know, maybe they have, you know, in the questions we see, you know, list  some people that you need to pass this on to, maybe right there in your session, pray for those people. Because now, together, you get to experience what God  does as he answers prayer. 

David – That's good. And the great thing is the way this works. Like, as if God  knows what He's doing in this fixture, like, when we start to teach others that's  where we really learn what God is teaching us. Like, sometimes people say,  well, I need to learn some more before I'm prepared to teach. Well, the reality is  the process of teaching makes you learn. The process of passing this on, makes you learn deeper what these truths are, there's no question when I'm preparing,  even like a sermon, like I know that material better anybody else, because I'm  the teacher, because I've got responsibility for this. And so for people to begin to take these truths passing to others, that's going to ingrain that truth, even  deeper in their lives than if they were just receiving it for themselves. 

Francis – Do you ever have these times, maybe you don't, but sometimes I'm  actually teaching it and I'm learning it at the same time. Like I'm, I'm like, I never  noticed that before. I should have caught that before. Exactly. But as I'm  teaching it, it's like I'm learning in the process. So yeah, again, just don't don't  don't feel all this pressure. I mean, that's not the whole point. His His burden is  light, his yoke is easy. His burden is light, because he's with you as you're  making this disciple. And as you encourage them to make disciples. They're  going to get to experience the power of the Holy Spirit in the presence of Christ  right there with them.  

David - Absolutely.